Bungi Bill

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  An elder dropped by 2 weeks ago with the two 607 rags (OCT & NOV WT)...

  by Alfred in

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  ...and a big smile on his face... as if to say "i can finally shut you up".... rewinding a bit.... about 18 months ago, i read "gentile times reconsidered" and discovered this doctrine had more holes than swiss cheese.

  but it didn't end there, i read several studies in the scriptures, the even tide by john aquila brown (not all of it) and then proceeded to write multiple letters to brooklyn, all of which were responded to by dodging simple questions such as: "if the 70 years ended in 537 and jeremiah says there would be 70 years of servitude, which babyonian king were the jews serving between 539 and 537?".

  i showed all three of the society's responses to an elder in my congo (even though he received copies of these himself) and he could see that they were "canned" responses that in no way anwered my queries.

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  Bungi Bill

  Talk about "if the facts don't support your theory, then just alter the facts"!

  Bill.
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  It`s just a matter of time B4 some" crazy"JW reads between the lines & takes matters in his/hers own hands

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  with the latest wt`s hate sessions against so-called apostates,former members who have had serious doubts about the religions claims to being the "chosen" of almighty god to dispense food at the proper time to the faithfull,eg:" mentally diseased"contagiously diseased,dont go near them etc.and of course exposing their dismall record of ever getting anything right as far as expectations ,prophecy,correct understanding of scripture and it`s interpretation,the flip flop backtreading on certain scriptures,and god knows what else,its only a matter of time b4 some delusional" witness"gets it in their head to take matters in their own hands and do jehovahs work,get rid of, kill some apostates,even if it`s family members.. the wtb&ts seem to be putting more and more pressure on the faithfull to hate all opposers.

  i dont think this is beyond the possabillity of reality given that a dis proportionate number of jw`s suffer some form of mental deficiency,whether this is why they become jw`s or whether this is something that develops after being in the religion for some extended time.

  smiddy.

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  Bungi Bill

  The signs have actually been there for as far back as I can remember:

  -I actually knew one mentally ill JW, who took hatred of "Christendom" to mean license to go around the district burning down church buildings. (This person never went to prison, only because a consulting psychiatrist classed him as "unfit to plead.")

  Exchange hatred towards "Christendom" for hatred of "apostates", and it is not hard to imagine someone similarly unbalanced interpreting this as license to physically attack "apostates."

  Bill.
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  JW's and Chronic Fatigue Syndrone!

  by cornish in

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  2. friends

  chronic fatigue syndrone, m e, yuppie flu.

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  i dont know if anyone else has noticed the alarming number of jws who claim to suffer from chronic fatigue syndrone,i mean hear in cornwall there tend to be several sufferers in every congregation,outside the jws out of the many people i know i dont know anyone,although there are obviosly many outside the jws who suffer this illness,percentage wise it seems that jws have a much,much larger occorance of the illness.. for example my brother in law has not worked and been living on invalidity benefits for more than 10 years since his mid twenties,his brother is also in the same boat, an m.e sufferer.. i wonder if anyone has looked into this a bit more?

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  Bungi Bill

  While I was still "In", it was estimated that CFS sufferers made up five percent of the circuit.

  These included several elders, and more than a few who had been pioneers. Sadly, a few were even still either children or else just into their teens.

  By contrast, in the seventeen years since I broke with the JWs, I have not even heard of one person who was suffering from this complaint.

  Bill.
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  Whats your personal perception of Religion ?

  by thetrueone in

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  2. bible

  my personal perception of my own would be that religion is an organized agreement.

  to a set of lies, cultivated upon human ignorance, fear and superstitions, structured.

  on a framework of power and control.

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  Bungi Bill

  When I first began a "Bible Study" with the JWs, my father did warn me that, to quote, "Religion is like whisky and beer - you can do without it."

  Unfortunately, I discovered the hard way that he was right!

  Bill
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  Really sad that JWs use medical issues as an excuse to refuse blood??

  by trailerfitter in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i cannot get over the amount of arguements we get into about blood with my wife.

  she is medically trained,.. but her thinking is now retarded by the watchtower mentality.

  one thing recently i refused to do lately was print a magazine article for her which was about blood complications this was an article from the new scientist magazine.

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  Bungi Bill

  Anony Mous,

  My experiences have been similar.

  Whatever the pseudo-science the GB / FDS / WTS or (whatever it is they preferred to be called) may quote about blood therapy, no doctor that I have ever dealt with has had any doubts about it.

  When my children were still young, and I was still "in", the matter of blood alternatives was raised on several different occassions. Each time, the answer was pretty much the same:

  i.e. The so-called "hazards" of blood therapy much exaggerated, and the effectiveness of blood alteratives very much exaggerated. As one doctor expressed it "You people scare me!"

  Bill.
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  CO Visits=encouragement?

  by lifestooshort in

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  2. beliefs

  when i was still a jw i remember my feelings of confusion caused by the co visit.

  i just found them so discourging.

  i knew what he was going to say.

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  Bungi Bill

  It depended very much on the Circuit Overseers as individuals, as to the amount of encouragement they imparted.

  Speaking in general terms, though, the ones that tried to kick a$$^$ backsides were the ones that ultimately achieved the opposite of what they intended to accomplish:

  - i.e. for a few months the congregation's all-important average hours soared - then after that, crashed in a heap!

  Bill.
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  Comments from a real JW about the killing of apostates watchtower. You will be shocked..

  by Hairyhegoat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is a very good find from another jw only web site i have access to... hey i just found this on a link of my mom's that she is "friends" with, yes, still a jw...anyway, i had to copy/paste it so you could all see, thought it was a bit hilarious to see how they blatantly speak of keeping info from "outsiders.

  " i did not copy the name of the person since that is not my point and i am not that disrespectful, but i did copy their comment...they were discussing the wt about killing all apostates and someone that was studying asked a question as to whether they all thought that was right or not, so here it is..............."james... although its a great article and very encouraging, as apostates do deserve to be murdered, it may not be such a good idea to reveal it our friend zeek at this moment.

  he may find it a tad over the top.

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  Bungi Bill

  Recalling some of the hate speech that I heard while I was still "In the Truth", there are JWs around who regret stoning to death is no longer permitted. They may be just a minority - probably only a small minority - but they are there none the less!

  Bill.
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  What Was Nathan Knorr Like Compared To The Other Presidents?

  by AvocadoJake in

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  2. experiences

  brother knorr is rarely mentioned in the awake or watchtower and i don't really know much about him.

  is there a reason why brother knorr does not receive as much mention as brother russell, rutherford or even frantz?

  can you help me understand why he was like?

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  Bungi Bill

  F.W. Franz, in the late 1980s WT article that featured his autobiography, described N.H. Knorr as having outstanding management skills. Others have observed that under Knorr, the operation of the WTS and the congregations was altered to more resemble one big business venture.

  Other than that, compared with his two predecessors, Nathan Knorr was not a controversial personality - possibly why remarkably little is said about him anymore. (That was not the case, though, while he was alive).

  Bill.
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  Rugby World Cup 2011

  by dm6 in

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  21 days to go!.

  whos looking forward to it?.

  any kiwis here on this board?.

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  Bungi Bill

  This result should at last put to rest the "chokers" tag , that has all too often been applied to the All Blacks!

  Bill.
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  Rugby World Cup 2011

  by dm6 in

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  2. physical

  21 days to go!.

  whos looking forward to it?.

  any kiwis here on this board?.

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  Bungi Bill

  I retract what I previously said about Dan Carter's absence, sizemik! Aaron Cruden performed magnificently in his place.

  Now there is only France to beat. While the odds seem to be heavily stacked against them, you never quite know what the French will do on the day. Were they to turn on another display like the 1999 semi-final, it would be a very interesting game indeed!

  Bill